War of the Roses Devvy Kidd
June 15, 2002I recently wrote an article that was featured on newswithviews.com; the same day it was linked from worldnetdaily.com. Other web sites also picked it up and as a result, 'Where Have All The Men Gone', brought an incredible deluge of e-mail. Not all of it was nice. Ooo-wee, the incoming was full of rage from a lot of angry men.
It was suggested by the editor of the site that I do a follow-up piece. I did and called it: 'Questioning America's Manhood Draws More Exuses'. This second article quieted things down a bit, but still produced quite a bit of mail; those two articles generated over 860 pieces of e-mail in less than five days. I can't answer each and every one individually, although, agree or disagree, I welcome your views and opinions.
One thing for certain: The Masters of the Game orchestrating their one world nightmare, have managed to divide the people of this county and create great rage between the men and women. Between promoting stupidity like feminism and ridiculing real men, the agitators have managed to keep everyone at each other's throats.
Actually, I think all this blowing and venting is good. At least it might get people riled up enough to do something besides sit back and watch America die.
I don't have a letters to the editor section on my site. However, I thought I would print some of the responses I received to my two articles, which you really have to read to understand these e-mails:
Article 1: https://www.newswithviews.com/news_worthy.htm
Article One:
Where have all the 'men' gone?
By Devvy Kidd
Published 6/10/02 10:13:00 AMMy comments here exclude those men who have stepped forward with incredible courage
since 1913 to face this tyrannical government, and like our Founding Fathers, have paid an
enormous price both personally and financially. People like Bill Benson, our fine gentlemen
down in the great State of Tennessee and too many others to list.Americans forget that the Founding Fathers were the "moneyed class" back then. They were
farmers, merchants and men of means. They had a lot to lose, both in land and gold. Yet,
they didn't hesitate to step forward against the most incredible odds to build a free nation, not
just for themselves, but for their women and children.My comments are directed at the men of this country, who over the past decades:
Sit back in their easy chair reading Newsweek or spend their time bare chested at a football
game, well filled with suds to maintain those obscene beer bellies, while they have put their
wives and children at risk. This nation is being invaded wholesale with illegal aliens who come
into this country and kidnap, rape and murder our women and children. Some are caught,
most are not. Why do the men turn a blind eye in pursuit of good times?These same men will go vote for the same politicians, state or federal, over and over, who
refuse to stop this massive invasion of our country putting their women and children at risk.
These same men continue to idolize their party "leadership," while that same leadership
refuses to stop this invasion of global riffraff, turning America into a third world dumping
ground. These same men would rather spend time, not banding together and having a serious
discussion with these politicians, but rather put on their expensive gear and go ride their bike
up a mountain, see the latest Broadway show or take a day off work to stand in line to buy
tickets to the new Star Wars flick. Why is this?Today the men in this country sit around watching mindless trash like Survivor or Friends on
the boob tube, instead of shouting down the roof against state and federal systems that are
utterly and completely rotten beyond redemption. Systems and agencies that are putting their
women and children into a state of involuntary servitude for all their lives. Instead they sit
back with nary a whisper while state and federal judges to uphold this carnage against the
people. Why is this?Black robed judges continue to hand out welfare and benefits to illegal aliens who are legally
entitled to nothing but deportation. Instead of holding their elected public servants
accountable for this insanity, men just get up in the morning, go to work at the company
store, then return home in the evening to their false sense of security. Why is this? Back in
1776, this breed of men would be called cowards.Today men will spend endless hours with their stamp collection or at the bowling alley while
Congress after Congress continues to pass unconstitutional legislation that deprives their
women of their God-given rights - all because their "party" says it's good for our
"democracy." Why is that?Today men will ignore the documented truth that the state and federal governments are all in
collusion to bring America into a one-world government, but they will believe any lie that
comes out of the mouth of their favorite radio talk show host or TV anchorman. Today men
are desperately clinging to their comfort zones while their women and children are at risk
from a police state being erected around them. Why is this?Today men will stand for hours on end feeding one-armed bandits in gambling casinos, while
the Bush Administration's henchmen (Ashcroft and Mueller) continue to strip their women of
their God-given rights, all in the name of "the war on terrorism." They are putting their
children at risk by not demaning this government take the necessary measures to clean out the
terrorists in this country, both Chinese and middle-Eastern. Why is this?For decades, America's men think nothing of spending spend lots of money on music CDs or
plunking down big bucks to attend concerts or jazz festivals instead of protecting their own
families from state predators calling themselves "child protective services." Everyone with
children is now a target. Why won't they band together and surround the state capitols and
demand that this evil cease? Back in 1787, the men protected their women and children to
the death.For the older men, their grand children are targets of the state. But, these men have already
served their country in the military and now it's time to spend their golden years in the
Winnebago, they've done their part. After all, at Christmas they can show the grand children
how much they love them by buying them "things" made in foreign countries. Why is this?Today the men of this country will allow a sleezy, morally bankrupt individual like Bill Clinton
get away with treason (selling our most sensitive national defense secrets to the Communist
Chinese) because Clinton supports their women's "right" to kill their unborn babies. Back in
1854, this was unthinkable. Today, their blind loyalty is to their political party now instead of
what's right. Why is this?Today men think nothing of sitting down at the local bar every night during happy hour while
their women and children are put at risk by agencies like the ATF and FBI making no knock,
bust down the door on the wrong house raids, killing innocents inside. It's happened and it
will continue to happen. A hundred years ago, this would not have been tolerated in a
constitutional Republic because the men would not have stood for it, not for a minute.While their women and children continue to live in a state of bondage to a tyrannical
government, the men simply write checks to the RNC or the DNC, thus encouraging those
scoundrels to stay on the same path of the planned destruction of this Republic. By writing a
check instead of storming the gates, this gives those men more time for the golf course, doing
recreational cocaine or surfing the Internet for countless hours enjoying that great "adult"
American pastime called pornography. Their harmless pastime does put their women and
children at risk out in society, but they no longer care. Why is this?While the IRS bleeds a family dry, forcing the woman into the workplace and leaving the
children to be raised by strangers, many of whom are pedophiles, the man of the house
spends his free time doing the "guy thing" at a NASCAR speedway. Why is this? Why won't
these men stand up to this rogue agency called the IRS?Over the past 40 years, the men of this country have sat back and allowed themselves to be
brow beaten into submission and castrated by so-called "feminists" like Rosie O'Donnell and
Hillary Clinton (although I defy anyone to show me one single feminine attribute of those
females) instead of stand up and saying, "Hell No!"Hard core feminists aren't out there for equal pay, they're out there to destroy the male and
the family unit. How it must gall them that the only way lesbians can "impregnate" their female
lovers is artificial insemination by a male sperm.Over the past 40 years the men of this country have put their material objects and addictions
before the well being of the women and children by kowtowing to every special interest
group in this country in the name of "political correctness" or for government hand outs. Our
nation was built by men who were self-reliant, independent and strong. Today they are
tolerant, sensitive and genuflect at the feet of perverts called "gays."
Why is this?The men of this country have laid down their arms in favor of political correctness, declaring
open season for two-legged predators on their women and children. Instead of surrounding
their state capitols armed to the teeth in defiance of such unconstitutional machinations on the
part of cowardly and mentally impaired politicians, instead they grovel on their knees to the
likes of Diane Feinstein. This sad state of affairs was unheard of in 1905. Why this inability to
resist tyranny now?PC is a cancer on this nation that has turned a Godly nation into a moral sewer. These men
have put their children in harms way via mandatory social indoctrination in the anti-God
public school system. Why is this?The men of this country will go to extraordinary lengths to find the right fishing hole, but they
refuse to lift a finger to ensure that their women and children will not be forced into global
citizenship under the UN.
Why is this?The men of this country will sit in front of the computer playing games while women and
children in different parts of this country are being driven off the land by Nazi-style federal
agencies. So what if their fellow countryman will lose his land, his wife and children thrown
out into the street? After all, those families in Klamath Falls and too many other places have
nothing to do with these other men's lives, so why should they give up any of their free time to
stand up to the government to help them? Why is this?Women in this country spend hundreds of millions of dollars every year on "romance books"
whose pages are filled with knights in shining armor and genuine heroes coming to rescue the
damsel in distress. Why do you suppose that is?Why do you suppose the men are allowing their women and children to be put at risk in all
the ways described above?Why are the women the ones out there on the front lines battling this government tooth and
nail for our children - ready and willing to die if necessary to protect our own?Because America has lost it's manhood.
Devvy Kidd is an Advisory Board Member for The Wallace Institute.
She is the founder and Director of POWER (Project on Winning Economic Reform).
Devvy Kidd's web site.Article 2: https://devvy.com/excuses_20020613.html
Perhaps people can treat this exercise like a town hall meeting. Everyone gets to have their say and that way, people can see what others are thinking. Quite frankly, I couldn't believe some of the early responses to article one. I wondered if they were talking about the same piece I wrote? Geesh.
These incoming aren't in any particular order. There was just too much mail for that, so I just picked a bunch of them randomly and here they are if you care to read them. I deleted e-mail addresses and used a first name from the sender. A couple I identified since I know these people and I don't think they have a problem with their full name being used.
One thing's for certain: If America continues to fight between themselves, the outside forces are gonna gobble us up like a turkey dinner. Maybe reading these will help "both sides" see the frustration everyone is experiencing. Also, please be aware that some of the language below is rather colorful. At the end is some additional information.
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Subject: Where have all the women gone?
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 12:13:01 -0400I read and was fascinated by your article but was disappointed that you didn't address what has happened to women? They are the ones watching Rosie and thinking that it's nice the Rosie and her lover are having a baby together. They are the ones prowling the shopping malls and retail chains looking for that right little something made by slave laborers in China or third world country that will make their rotten little existence that much more tolerable.
The ones who haven't evolved into some regressive fur wearing harpies don't even dress like girls any more. They are the ones who kowtow to the gay fashion designers and watch shows like "Will and Grace" after spending an hour on their stair-masters listening to George Michael's Greatest Hits. Just as many of Rush's and Howard's listeners are female as male, and both groups of followers have subjugated their will to these propagandists.
Of course, I imagine you sitting there, martini in one hand, vibrator in the other, watching Sean Connery in your regressive mindset, bemoaning the lack of man that never really existed in the first place, that man being your so-called god.
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Subject: your article on were did all the men go
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 02:16:00 EDT
From:Don't blame the men of this country. Blame the system that this country has been run under for decades.
Why men don't care.
1. Why vote its all rigged, ask Mr. Bush
2. The news stinks, its all lies run by six corporations.
3. Abortion-Its the women that want it not the men, HELLO
4 War on terrorism. Who the hell wants to go fight a war for standard oil. The borders, the aliens are here because corporate America buys off your government so they can hire these drones for below minimum wage. The big suprise- America is not for the people its for the Corporations .
7 Why lie I want a beer
So the real question is," Were a have all the real women gone" ??? The dummbing down of the american sheep.
[I would remind this e-mailer that the 1973 U.S. Supreme Court that ruled abortion legal consisted of nine men. There were no women on that court; Sandra Day O'Connor was seated in 1981. It was men that gave women the "right" to kill their unborn. Sadly, women bought into the rhetoric and now they have to live with their actions until they stand in front of the Lord for judgment.]
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Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 04:50:28 EDT
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Subject: News with views
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 11:16:04 -0700The reason the males of this nation are not fighting back is because the feminist movement has castrated them.
That should answer most of your questions.
Know that I couldn't give a shit about this country anymore because of what YOU WOMEN have made of it.
I just tried to organize a protest to protect our freedoms of public lands. And you know what, the feminist movement in the environmental circles shoved it down my throat. They are willing to "protect wilderness" at the cost of freedom. The same feminint sentiment is what 'protects illegal immigration" and the abuses to real American tax dollars - so stop flapping your lips about things you don't know about.
So from now on, my policy and message to this feminist controlled country...
FIGHT YOUR OWN GOD DAMN, SELF-INFLICTED WARS!
Quite frankly, given the freedoms I have lost, I have reached that threashold where I am willing to go down with a ship that ain't worth saving.
You women are learning at the last dire moment that the "womens" movement has taken the heart out of your men.
And then you have the 'balls' to ask us to help you?
You know where the sun don't shine.
Please excuse me now. I must grab a beer before the football game..Or maybe I will go watch an old war movie. You know, those old John Wayne flicks really take me back to what the US used to be - where a man was a man and a women knew her place.
Ken
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Subject: Your diatribe on www.rense.com
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 06:34:01 -0700This country has turned men into second class citizens and criminals first, fathers a distant second. This is directly thanks to the feminist/lesbian conspiracy with the globalists (who have used them as the pathetic pawns that they are).
Now that (some?) lesbian feminists realize they have been used, they try to goad men into doing their dirty work for them (IE. you and your pathetic attack on "manhood".. why do you bitches get off guilt free in the whole deal anyway?).
In this day and age of "grrrrl power" and all that other feminist crap, haven't you bitches learned to do your own dirty work yet? Me and all the other disenfranchised guys are just going sit back and laugh while you lame bitches get your much deserved comeuppance at the hands of the satanists.. you deserve each other. Maybe if you learn to belly dance real good, they'll let you stay in their apocalypse bunkers as their entertainment.. be sure to bring that dead animal fur you appear so fond of (is that another sacrificial lamb for one of your causes?).
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Subject: This man hasn't
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 17:02:16 -0400gone anywhere. I've been in the good fight since the early to mid 1980's. In fact, I have been and continue to be increasingly involved and loving every moment. I have been a long time fan and admirer of your unwavering dedication,and I have the highest respect for you.
Nick
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Subject: Where have all the men gone?
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 20:01:31 -0700 (PDT)They were not wanted, so they left. Let those who replaced them, stand up. Bob.
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Subject: Three Cheers!
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 22:03:41 -0600Ms. Kidd,
I agreed with most everything you said. The "real men" that you make reference to, are mostly in the Rocky Mountain West (excluding Colorado). As a card carrying Libertarian I try as best as possible to get Americans to re-claim their Constitutional rights. Many are called, but few will come.
I applaud your article. Keep up the good writing.
Dr. Ben
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Subject:
RE:QUESTIONING AMERICA'S MANHOOD DRAWS MORE EXCUSES
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 04:49:20 -0700I don't know why you were surprised that your previous column lashing out at men in general resulted in angry e-mails. Men are constantly accused, vilified, and insulted in everything from mass media to the legal system. Why did you think it would help anything or prove any point to launch yet another attack?
I think your article was poorly conceived and essentially unfair. It does use the well-known feminists' tactic of 'depersonalizing the enemy.' To lump all men into one category for the purposes of blame is a mistake, and just because you don't personally know the activists is not a defensible position.
As a writer and observer of the men's rights movement I am in contact with thousands of men worldwide who are working hard to correct some of the problems of society. You probably haven't heard from them because they're too busy trying to set things
right to concern themselves with yet another woman who seems so set on 'calling men to task,' as if it were a new idea. But women have been doing this for decades. Men have had it with blame, and aren't prepared to listen to any more of it.
Certainly there are men who couldn't care less about the state of the world, just as there are women who are self-involved and expect somebody else will take care of things for them. Apathy has no gender. It would be far more appropriate to address the apathy itself rather than attempt to make any group responsible for it.
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Trudy
"A woman needs a man like a fish needs the river."
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Subject: rense.com
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 17:21:34 -0700 (PDT)
From: john publicActually, I just couldnt get thru enough of you article to determine your point. And I read several paragraphs. Really. Are you a feminsits, liberal, right-winger?
After several quick pararaphs, i dunnav a cloo.
Where have all the 'men' gone ?Apparently, you dont have a clue.
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Subject: men?
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 22:24:11 EDTDear Devvy:
I would make some points in their defense but in the end they are guilty as charged. Those men (I assume you mean white males) have been attacked by feminists for being chauvistinic and too aggressive. Their own wives and daughters have not stood up for them. They have been charged by blacks and other minorities for being racists. Even the blacks they stood alongside in civil rights marches will not come forward to defend them. They were charged with being baby killers for enlisting in the US Armed Services and fighting in Viet Nam. Not even their grandfathers welcomed them home.
I think I saw some of them rushing into the Twin Towers to save lives like men have always done. I didn't see any women alongside them. It is time our women who waited until all the hard work of building a civilization was done to demand equal rights and equal pay stood up and learned about the price one pays for liberty. Men have been too polite and too gentile to tell it like it is. But I think those days are coming to an end. Let's get down to the nitty gritty.
We have heard an unending stream of venom, false accusations, and half truths for the past 30 years. Figure it out...
sincerely, Will
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Subject: Thank you
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 20:38:35 -0500Thank you for the best column I've ever read. I've passed it on to everyone I know.
Vicki
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Subject: sigh...America has lost its manhood
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 13:58:09 -0500Go Devvy GOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shonda
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Chuck wrote:
Still here, babe.
Chuck
LTC, IN, USAR (Ret.)
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Harry wrote:
Having read with interest your article, Where Have All the 'Men' Gone, referenced in Worldnetdaily.com, I must remark that they are not all gone. True, they have been driven underground, after 30+ years of Democrat rule that sought to feminize and homogenize America. After 8 years of a sleazy, lying "President" under whose policy and direction anyone not conforming to this liberal world-view was either attacked in the press, or by combined forces of the FBI and BATF.
The real men are out there, from veterans of WW II, Korea, and Vietnam, to younger men who are very well prepared to resist tyranny and protect American values (and their wives, children, and homes) by whatever means necessary. The true patriots will seek redress through the ballot box, but failing that, have no qualms about more vigorous and manly actions.
Note, however, that "real men" are also very cognizant of the horrors of civil war, and are loathe to "water the tree of freedom with the blood of tyrants" until there is absolutely no longer any alternative. Do you propose that now is the right time?
Harry
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Dear Mrs. Kidd,
It seems that most men have lost their moral courage. But I just want you to know that I haven't lost mine. I think the core to so many of our societal problems is bad individual choices. There is a simple truth. How we choose to live our life affects others. For example, if we choose to drive while drunk, someone else may be killed.
It is unfortunate that during the last several decades, our leaders in government and education have made it harder for individuals to make good choices. Many politicians have blurred the lines on morality for political gain. They have morally confused the public. There has been an overwhelming movement to remove religion from the public sphere.
Well, humans have always used religion to transmit good values to each other. Those who have fought to secularize our society have truly damaged us all. They have taken away the primary means of value transmission out of our public schools. They have replaced it with a type of secular religion (PC, valueless education, multiculturalism and etc.) that is totally inferior to the traditional religions.
To cure this problem, I believe that we need to stop this secular vs. religious war in our country. The secularists need to back off of their radical church vs. state positions. The ACLU is still prowling the rural schools of America looking for any possible examples of secular heresy. This needs to be stopped. The Democratic Party needs to stop embracing the philosophies of radical interest groups such as the feminists, the far out environmentalists, the homosexual activists and others. This destroys our traditional institutions and our values and leads to individuals making bad choices.
Thanks, Larry
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Permission requested to reprint your excellent article
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 11:15:18 -0500Dear Devvy,
My name is Al Lorentz, I am the State Chairman for the Constitution Party of Texas and have read your book on Blind Loyalty and found them quite informative and excellent.
Your article on "Where Have all the 'Men' Gone?" was truly outstanding and struck home with me because I have made the same observations, in fact, I have become so disgusted with the sloth of the males or faux men in our nation. You coined it so well when you said that we are fiddling while America burns.
I would like to reprint your article in it's entirity on our website
www.cptexas.org giving proper credit and following any stipulations, restrictions or guidelines you may wish on the matter. Further, if you would be willing, I would like to have you as a regular feature there. I believe you have an important message to tell and I want to make sure that it gets out there.
If you would be willing to agree to either or both of these, I would be delighted to proceed as soon as possible.
In either regard, thank you for writing an excellent article and for calling on the Men of America to stand up and be Men!
Sincerely,
Al Lorentz
Chairman, Constitution Party of Texas* * *
Subject: You Fems ruined the U.S.
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 10:30:18 -0700 (PDT)Women wanted/said they were equal to me. You are now in office, management, government, and your true goal was to get rid of men for 'government' security. You are true communists and some are even satanic.
You are getting it your way, at your request!
Robert
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Subect: what is happening to our woman?
Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 19:19:13 -0700I'm not one of those men you describe in your recent article on news with views. I dont like sports, porn and dont have a TV. My faith is in Jesus Christ of nazereth. My wayward wife has manic depression and for many years has refused my protection and it has been at the expense of our family and children. She listens to lies and refuses to hear the truth. Shes out there somewhere now killing herself once again as our children are being raised by athiests.
My rich sister has taken my son and keeps him from me. Step daughter has been alienated againts me by mother in law whom is satanic. Mother in law is indoctinating step daughter just as she has done to my wife and her sister. She sets them on a path of self destruction. She hates me with a unholy passion. The state is a great tool for those againts me. I havent given up. I still love my wife and pray for her daily as well as my children. Many of us are in fact going to die as a result of all this hell heaped upon us.
We have nothing left to loose. As hard as I tried I couldnt stop it. I saw it coming for years and did my best to stop what has now happened to my family. Its far worse than I ever thought possible. Oregon is a living hell for families. I have faith that my family will be restored some day. I have been told that if that day comes, so will the SCF!!! My rich sis works for the state of course and has threatened me with that action. My crime? I believe in miracle and have been willing to fight for them. They cant figure out why I can be bitter, angry and unforgiving as they are, so they oppose me violently. It does speak about this very thing in the bible.
At this point Im looking for a way to bring down the OSCF compleatly!!! Any help as to how to go about that would be much appreciated. I do have one friend high up in the department of human resources. Most the men that stand up are being made examples of. Look at the Christines case. There are many more, and on a smaller scale I have been one of them, but Im just getting started and Ive been in this fight for 4 years now. Most would of given up after the first year and divorced or commited suicide. I will never give up.
Mark
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Subject: Where Are The Men? ATTN: Devvy Kidd
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 11:17:03 -0400Ma'am,
In response to your article noted above, the men in this country are fine and doing well, at least the ones who count. Unfortunately, we are under siege from any number of PC correct individuals and organizations. Men are simply not allowed to be men anymore, lest they suffer repercussions from numerous quarters for trying to assert their independence and focus on raising good families in health and security. Most of the "true men" in this country do not have the time to sit and watch Survivor, Friends, and football games.
The true men, the ones who do actually give a care, are busy picking up the slack for the vast multitude of sheep in this country who turn a blind eye to the condition of the country. I, personally, Thank God each and every day for the men, the Marines, under my care and command. They are willing to make a difference, willing to accept challenge and responsibility for the future and the security of this nation. We are limited by our commitment to the oath to the Constitution of the United States, on what we are actually allowed to do, but the heart, motivation, and dedication is there in each individual Marine.
When allowed to be put into action these men are virtually unstoppable., I would encourage you to get out, meet, and talk with some of these outstanding young men as they stand on guard for us, and our way of life. They could also benefit from your insight and direction.
Best Regards,
Nick
Major, United States Marine Corps Reserve* * *
Subect: You've lost your mind, lady...
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 13:41:12 -0500From: "Don Thompson"
You must be a lesbian to hate men so much. Woman was made from man. You'd better smarten up before a man kicks your lesbo ass. F**k off, Bitch!
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Subject: Men:
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 20:02:25 -0700Devvy,
Well spoken. My sentiments exactly. I spent 17 years working for the Southern Pacific railroad in Roseville and absolutely despised football and basketball season, because that is all most of those idiots I worked with ever talked about. Pardon my frenchbut most men that I know and worked with are a**holes who have nothing better to do than swill beer and watch the tube.
Truer and sadder words on american manhood were never spoken. Problem is that the men that need to read it probably will never see it.
Dennis
Shalom* * *
Subject: re: Where Have All The Men Gone?
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:13:26 -0400 (EDT)From: Nerve Anna
Behind every great man is a great woman. So by that alone, if there are no great men around willing to do anything, it most certainly must do with the calibre women of America.
As for your article, you say: "...while the Bush Administration's henchmen continue to strip their women of their God-given rights," you not ONCE state a reason HOW they are stripping women of this strange God-Given right. Which right is this?
You continue: "... take the necessary measures to clean out the terrorists in this country, both Chinese and middle-Eastern.". And what of the Timothy McVeigh's & the Biolab's that are producing Anthrax distriubted by your OWN Anglo US citizens? You produce the greatest terrorists on earth! So if you actually cleaned out America from terrorist filth, you'd be left with very little Anglo/Christian Americans. And the Unibomber? Your people.
And: "... leaving the children to be raised by strangers, many of whom are pedophiles." Many of the strangers are pedophiles? Can you please back this statement up with numbers? Stats? Terrorists? Do you mean the pedophiles of the Church that terrorized little children? Are these the terrorists you wish to be cleansed from? But seriously, how many strangers who look after children (school system, legal child care, etc.) are pedophiles? Just another example that you're a blazing idiot.
A blazing friggin' idiot.
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Subject: Re: America's Manhood
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 11:59:22 -0600Dear Mrs. Kidd,
You are right dead on, and beautiful too. I have been following your works for many years and it is righteous!
I watched in dismay while the NWO gained a controlling influence over our military. I spoke up for America, and was finally forced out through the political dirty tricks of my globalist superiors.
God bless you for all your years in the thankless battle for the Constitutional Republic!!
Col. (Dr.) Byron Weeks
USAF (MC) Ret. Res.* * *
Subect: Your Column challenging men
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:51:49 -0700Without reading your column mentioned, I can only conclude that your rebuttal was and is correct. As you describe yourself, it is tempting to want to be lascivious with YOU! I won't because as a Christian and happily married, I cannot yield to temptation. What you say about feminists is loud, clear and distinct. Feminists are among the most narrow minded people I have ever had the misfortune to come up against. Each and everyone that you describe are either physically bereft of any beauty and those that have a modicum of this type of animal attractiveness are a trash heap of emotional garbage and psychological disorders usually based on extreme egotism or a profile that is stunted in adolescence and therefore puerile.
My ex-wife was a gorgeous and homespun human, who started listening to those dikes, burned her bra, went to work in a factory where she came home looking like a garage mechanic and then complained that she did "feel feminine". When I refused to be pulled into her quagmire of insanity, she divorced me. I lost everything. She took our 300,000 dollar home, two cars and a pick-up, bank accounts and some farming property bought for investments and tax shelter, turned our children against me to the point that my grown grandchildren are forbidden to visit me.
I was to say the least bitter. When I met a Catholic Priest to counsel me, it was God acting through another human. He convinced me that there have been people like that sinceSodom and Gomorrah and will continue to be, until we root out the Devil from our own individual souls with the help of God Almighty.
After about 8 years of dating one lunatic after another in this country, I met a nice little lady, who had never been married, while I was doing a project for the Queen's Engineers in Hong Kong. To make a long story short. I dated her, and petitioned her to come to this country for marriage. We married in the Catholic Church and have two sons. These sons are proud of me and take such care of me in my declining years I cannot even begin to describe. My wife is pleasant, simple, well-educated and does not blame man or men for all her problems. She is kind, loyal and never, under any circumstances, raises her voice to me or anyone.
I can understand why you have been married so long. It is something all men in this country understand without knowing it or voicing it. All the good women have been taken!!!!!! When a man finds such a woman as you or my wife, we judge them to be the great treasure that Jesus talks about and we do PROTECT and DEFEND against all invaders, real and/or imagined.
You keep writing the way you do, lucid, honest and contemporary. Let the chips fall where they may. You are not responsible for the reaction only for sending the message. Yours in Christ and in Him crucified:
James
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Subject: Thanks!
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:33:18 -0600...for your article regarding manhood in America. Please continue to write your columns to elicit blue streaks from the hormonally challenged.
Also, since you note your husband is an Army vet, maybe your next article could have some hints on the 1911? I just got one for my wife for Mother's Day in honor of the "Million Mom March."
God bless you, Bert
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Subject: Not all men are asleep @ the wheel
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 22:09:48 -0500Dear Ms. Kidd,
I just finished reading your WND column and thought you might like to know that there are a few "good" men left. The challange ahead is making the rest of the American males realize what is really going on out there and to show them how their time can be spent more wisely. I agree with what your saying but don't have the answer to the problem but I promise you that I for one will not fall into that trap. Hopefully this email will be followed by many others saying the same thing. God does work in strange ways.
Have a good day, Mark
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Subject: wnd (worldnetdaily.com)
Date: Wed, 05 Jun 2002 22:26:53 -0500i just read your column on the wnd site, and it was awesome. i'm a guy and i agree with you.
sj
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Subect: Manhood
Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2002 23:03:03 -0700 (PDT)Dear Devvy,
Part of the reason men aren't taking a stand is because the last couple of generations don't know what the Constitution is all about and they have been intentionally dumbed down in the gov. schools, for the very purpose of what we see today. Along with tolerance, immoral behavior, spiritual emptiness and women lowering their standards to the street level, you have men who look to fun and sports for their existence. Sadly, this is the results of years of brainwashing, situation ethics and the dialectic process in action. Men of yesteryear did not have these assaults upon them. I hope its not irreversible. May God help America!
Sincerely, Leslie
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Subject: Thank You
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 01:24:24 -0500I don't know who you are...but, way to GO! What an article!! Thank You, for having the guts to write it!! I've been asking the same question......"Where Have All The Men Gone?" Is anybody listening? Does anyone care? What a shame. Our country is going down the tubes, and not a man to be found. Thanks Again, Mare
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Subject: You are quite a woman!
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 15:00:31 +0800You are all woman and I am very proud to see there are still some left.Thank God I don't fit the description of the American male in your most recent article.And I too am proud of that! May God bless you and protect you on the lonely battelfront.
Alan
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Subject: The Women destroyed "manhood"!
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 06:56:18 EDTMs. Kidd:
The men have lost their manhood because the women don't respect them as men anymore. Any previous generation, including the generation of women who built the weapons and fueled the economy during World War II, still had enough common sense to step aside when the soldiers returned and let the men resume their roles as the heads of the households, the companies, churches, etc. There is a reason the Bible instructs women to respect their husbands (doesn't say a word about loving them), because without respect a man is nothing, won't try to be.
So, you can place the responsibility for the lack of "manhood" that you lament directly on the feminist philosophy that has attacked manhood in every way.
By the way, note that the very politicians that you accuse the men for plundering the women and children are the very ones voted for by women! A traitorous, murdering, rapist like Bill Clinton would never have been voted in by any men with any genitals left. It was the women who voted for him!
If women want equal rights and benefits, they have to assume equal responsibilities. And that includes using logic, reason, and character as a basis for making judgements, not just emotion and unthinking reaction to some scumbag's "charm", as was obviously the case with Bill Clinton.
So, please put the responsibility where it belongs: on the women who no longer respect their men, the women who try to make government their "big brother" so that they don't have to depend on their men, the women who try to undermine "manhood" in all of it's forms. Just look in the mirror, the prepetrator is right there.
Tom
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Subject: Re: WHERE HAVE ALL THE 'MEN' GONE? - By Devvy Kidd
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:42:02 -0400Dear Devvy,
Kudos, young lady on this excellent article. And I completely agree with you on this and undoubtedly most other subjects as well. I am isolated in my neighborhood by that type of man. The last one that would talk with me stopped talking after he watched Alex Jones, "911 Road to Tyranny" tape I gave him. I am so glad I am in my middle seventies and not younger. God bless and keep you and yours and our once-great Republic.
Phil
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Subject: Americas missing manhood
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 06:46:52 -0500Devvy,
We didnt lose our manhood. It was stripped from us by these same women that now wonder why we arent ready to rush to the country's defense. Why should we defend a nation full of people that have ridiculed every thing we've done. We see the thanks our forfathers are given and it doesnt make us want to martyr ourselves for an ungrateful leftist society that in the end will demand that a statue be politically correct. Sex was not the motivating factor behind our forfathers sacrifices. Honor,Duty,Country were more the driving forces and when the feminists infiltrated male military schools that was replaced by............nothing.
Rick
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Subject: Devvy Kidd ..........WHERE ARE THE MEN
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 09:21:25 -0400Well america Has finally got what they have asked for and are now going to whine about it ......... This article of your makes me Laugh loudly. I have watched this country turn into a feeling caring spineless country..... why because ALL THE WOMEN WANTED PUSSIES FOR MEN , so that they could control them more easily ....... and in typical fashion the women do not like the seeds that they have sown ..... so cry me a river you have what you wanted. You want to be in control well you got it, so what the hell is your beef now...... Finding out it is not as easy to lead as it was to follow...................... clowns get no symphony here............... stuff like this makes me laugh my ass off. I am one that is not a pussy and am a real MAN
(choke on the words) and thank God I know what side of the bread the butter goes on .......... So now all the know it all , I can save the world women, grab your guns , get off your ass and go fight the war, you THINK you know how to win. I will tell you up front that the enemy will not care about your stupid weak feelings......... I can see from this article that ''I am woman here me roar'' is turning into help me I am weak squeak mmmmmmmmmm some things NEVER change. let us see 50% the population is female, 10 % are queer, 10% are house husbands, 25% are pussy whipped , looks like the real men are few , Just glad to be in the TOP 5% ................... STOP WHINING I will not brother to ask the women to make up there minds .. it can not be done, but they should at least quite making such fools of themselves.
ps......... politicians ARE not men, they are liars that are in the game for ONE thing, their own benefit and bank accounts
The Fixer
Greg
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Subject: WHERE HAVE ALL THE 'MEN' GON
Date: Thu, 06 Jun 2002 09:06:17 -0500Devvy,
Well I reckon you can say the same about the 'WOMEN'. As a matter of fact, my personal experience is that with women (I haven't found any exceptions in my life), they pretty much freak out and tune you out if you bring up anything the least bit controversial. If anything they, women, are at the heart of political correctness (can't use the 'f' word) and gun control (woooo, those evil guns). Admitedly, the country has sharply become a nation of wooses and shleep but there are still a lot more 'MEN' than there are 'WOMEN' and without the 'WOMEN' to support them it's hard for the 'MEN' to make changes.
Best regards, you are definitely a real 'WOMEN'.
dave
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Subject:
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 13:17:03 -0700Why are men wimps today.....Because that's what Women want (be nice)
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Subject: Where have all the men...
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 17:15:51 EDTDevvy,
I just read your article "Where have all the Men Gone". I am a libertarian and I agree with your argument (for the most part -- I'm not too sure about the illegal aliens raping and pillaging our women part though). I also hold a degree in history and cannot help but inform you of your seemingly over romanticized view of the American past. You occasionally cite the past and claim, "Americans wouldn't have it" ( that Americans in the past wouldn't stand for what going on today).
Although this claim may have some validity to a certain extent, surely it does not apply to all Americans, as you seem to suggest. In 1776, (during the American Revolution) most Americans were either for the British or didn't care, nor was their any concept of a Constitution. Your argument is also full of broad generalities, "men do this...," "Americans did that...," etc. It will better serve your argument if you would explain some of your generalities (especially when you claim women are being raped, certain groups are mostly "pedophiles," and Chinese and middle eastern illegal immigrant/terrorists are in this country and need to be deported).
Massawilly
[Mr. Response to Mr. Massawilly: Go spend the next six months reading my web site. There you will find very precise facts, figures and what people can do to cure the cancer instead of just sending me silly e-mails.]
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 15:38:35 -0700 (PDT)
Hey, don't look at me. I risked my life at right-wing and anti-anti-Vietnam war rallies in the 70s(got busted too), been NRA member many years, voted American Independent Party and currently am writing for fairpress.org as a columnist to assist in bringing down the vile and stinking liberal media(On the Offensive continuing columns). Not all men are pusillanimous brainwashed wimps transfixed by a rotted culture. Wish more men showed more courage also. Good article BTW-
Dan
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Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 15:52:33 -0700
I agree with both your view and understanding of the state of America. However, though you could find a lot of 'yahoos' to stand up and march on their state capitols, they would be just that ...'Yahoos.'
America is adrift upon a sea of immorality. She has left her moorings. Her sails are in tatters and as she drifts toward the rocks of perdition, she lists so heavily to port that her rudder no longer even brushes the swells.
Most men don't know just how depraved they are. Most are in church every Sunday deeming themselves 'quite nice fellows.' Unless and until there is National repentance, there is no hope. And what will bring that repentance, if the Autumn terrorist attacks of 2001 did not.
Nothing happens in a vacuum. Be not deceived; God's hands are in the affairs of man. God has always used the more wicked nations to judge those He has blessed when they reject Him. We have ripped from the wombs of their mothers one out of every ten citizens of the U.S. as it stands today!
You ask where are the men?.... They are the ones who have demanded the perpetration of this heinous crime by the women of America until the women of America have been so dehumanized that they do it now without prompting! God does not look lightly on the shedding of innocent blood
We would do well to heed the Lord's warning and promises ...
.... if my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and heal their land...
..."But if you abandon me and disobey the laws and commands I have given you, and if you go and worship other gods, then I will uproot the people ...
...Because his people abandoned the LORD, the God of their ancestors, who brought them out ... and they worshiped other gods instead. That is why he brought all these disasters upon them.'"
These verses written to Israel, apply equally as well to us. I remain...
Your servant by His grace,
W. A.
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Subject: Fantastic read
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:55:03 -0400Devvy, I will just forward Ricks message on to you, and he doesn't mean you or I get off our fat asses, he means the men you were talking about in the message I sent on to all of my lists, and Rick must not remember you from the Wash. D.C. meeting because he was there, that is where I met him. He is running for congress in Colorado. He is a Libertarian. He agrees with the Reform Party of which I am a member and heavily involved, and I told him he should be running with us instead. He is a good person, and I hope he makes it.
Hi Virginia,
Please forward back to this woman, would you. Her points and writing are well made. I wanted to thank her for the courage to say them. The so called men of America are really just cowards, and anyone who doesn't like that can prove to me otherwise by standing up for our women and children.
Patriots can go to the website at www.stanley2002.org and start the process to heal our nation by signing the Million Gun March Petition. Small but important first step. After that get off your big asses, and get to work telling everyone in this country, what is happening to America, and mean it, by telling it loudly. Make a difference, or please, bring that big tough guy image my way, so I can put you in your place. Below the women and children, who are trying valiantly to do your job. Stand up America and demand a Constitutional Government before it becomes too late.
Sincerely,
Rick Stanley
To: "Virginia
Hi Virginia.. well what this lady said.. IS RIGHT ON THE MONEY... and being a MAN.. it GALLS ME TO WATCH THE COWARDS she is speaking of... im forwarding this to ALL my friends... Jim..
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Subject: Where have all the men gone?
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 21:55:24 -0500Ms Kidd:
Where, indeed? We wonder aloud about that same question as we watch our rural border county Citizens get overrun by these criminal aliens every day and night.
I invite you to visit our website and see what a few good men and women have accomplished by working together with Ranch Rescue. Our volunteers travel to the border counties to assist the rural landowners with protecting their private property rights and protecting their families from the predations of the hostile hordes pouring over our borders.
We have chapters in each of the four border states, and we stand ready to assist our border county families whenever we are invited to do so. I hope you will pay us a visit.
Many thanks,
Jack Foote
National Spokesman and Texas CoordinatorRanch Rescue -- http://www.ranchrescue.com
"Unless we do something significant to control our borders, we're going to have another event with someone waltzing across the borders. Then the blood of the people killed will be on this administration and this Congress... How can we stop it? Pray. Certainly you can't rely on the US Immigration and Naturalization Service."
-- US Congressman Tom Tancredo, 18 April 2002
http://www.house.gov/tancredo/Immigration/PressReleases/unbelievable_but_true_immigratio.htm
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Subject article on manhood
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2002 22:31:53 -0500Ms. Kidd:
Enjoyed your article very much. Yes, men as a whole have usurped their God-given responsibilities to protect and defend. Fortunately I am married to a man who does not think like that and has many friends who do not think like that but they are certainly outnumbered by the couch potatoes (blind and deaf at that!)
Hope you are successful in getting your message to the masses. It's hard to find a good man anymore!
Phyllis
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Subject: Wherre have the men gone?
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 00:34:50 -0400The men are still here. The men have found it necessary to not be upfront for years because of the Clintonized republicans , and socialist democrats. The men in this country are ready to ensure the Bill of Rights are preserved, even against the assaults that are coming between now and the middle of August.
The men of America are prepared to play cowboys and muslims, ( even the homegrown black ones are not going to be allowed to destroy the last great hope of the world,not even in August ) Our American President, and the 30 or so Republicans in the Senate have much more support than even they know. The sad part is that the next "Concord Bridge" is going to be looked at, at first, as a racist thing instead of an American one.
Stay safe. Pat, Jr.
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Subject:: where have all the men gone
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 01:28:12 EDTYoung lady, you must be hanging around with the all the wrong men in all the wrong places. This man and my men friends did not vote for that prevert Clinton. I don't take off from work to go stand in line to buy tickets for a damn thing. I served in the military but my oath to defend the constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic is still binding.
My kids are grown and gone. At this time I don't have any grandchildren. However if I ever do, I plan on passing on more than material things to them. I will leave written instructions in case I am not around when they are old enough to understand. Devvy, I don't know where you are. Are you in Washington, D.C.? You need to come to the heartland and hang out with real men instead of those weaklings. And by the way not all of us middle aged guys are looking for a young woman to perform a blow job on us.
Yours truly, Hugh
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Subject:
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 08:12:48 EDTDear Ms. Kidd,
I've been asking the same question. You have stated it so eloquently. Thank you.
Sincerely, Nancy
P.S. If you find the place where all the real men have relocated to, please let me know!! I'm there!
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Subject: The Macho American
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 07:13:07 -0700Good Morning Devvy,
I read your excellent article, "Where Have All The 'Men' Gone?". It was posted on APFN. You may find the following lyrics to a song I wrote, "The Macho American", of interest. (Hopefully the centered format won't be scrambled.)
Have a nice day,
Tony Fusco
The Macho American
Words & Music by
Tony Fusco, Sgt. Phila. P.D. (Retired)Rights Reserved
He sits by the TV, a drink in his hand,
The macho American, a real tough he-man.
He watches his heroes fight the bad guys,
Then looks at the ballgame through his bloodshot eyes.
But he can't see what's happening a little each day.
His freedom's eroded, legislated away.
He won't leave to his children the freedom he's had,
And someday they'll say, " It's because of my dad.
He sat by the TV, a drink in his hand.
A macho American, a real tough he-man."* * *
Subject: "Where Have all the 'Men' Gone?"
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 07:14:39 -0700Dear Mrs. Kidd:
I agree with much of what you say, and I stand guilty of many of your accusations. But in response to the topic raised in this observant piece, I say the Nation was emasculated when women were enfranchised. I know some of you ladies are pretty hard-core, but you must admit that the women you encounter on a day-to-day basis are media toilets, much more so than the average man.
What TV flushes, they ingest without question. "The View", "Oprah", "Sally", "Ricky", "Jenny", this is where the largest demographic grouping in America goes for opinion. And they parrot the talk show pabulum on cue. What would our elections look like if women's votes were factored out?
Then there's the heart versus mind issue. Both are needed in the home, but "feelings" are irrelevant in a rational debate. A woman once told me "I'm tired of all this logic and facts!" "What about the children?" or "If even one life can be saved..." can only be considered arguments by someone that views the world through Oprah-tinted lenses. The maternal infatuation with making things "safe" has produced a government that is plunderous and intrusive.
So has our society become infested with female notions while masculine values are suppressed? That's obvious. But there's enough blame for both sexes to share. Men and women are different, created for different purposes. The folly of the 20th Century has been the exhaustive effort made by Western civilization to ignore this obvious fact. How would you feel about repealing the XIX Amendment, or the statement that "a woman's place is in the home?" There are plenty of "male-dominated" societies still existing in the World (the illegal Mexicans here are genuinely perplexed when they're informed it's against our laws to smack the wife), but the plight of the women that inhabit them doesn't seem too appealing.
I'm all for a national return to the sane and Biblical concept of the man being Head of the House. I remember reading that something with two heads is a monster, but that's how people are currently expected to conduct their marriages and families, as monstrosities! And of course, the ruinous government policies have insured that there is no man present in many homes at all.
I believe I linked to your article from WND and haven't had a chance to check out your website, but it looks promising.
Best regards, Kevin
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Subject: WHERE HAVE ALL THE 'MEN' GONE?
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 07:15:56 -0700Greetings Madame,
In as much as I agree with most of what you said in this article you didn't once chastise the women. You should have for they also have forgotten how to be women. I disagree with your assessment that only the women are out there in the trenches fighting the good fight. I'm sorry but I don't see what you see at all. This does not mean that you are wrong about the men.
It means that you did not mention the selfishness of women which is rampant. I know of what I speak for I am a man. I am 45 years old and have been around a while. I was divorced in 1991 and we had no children. Since then I have been celibate waiting for "the right one". But alas all the good ones are already taken. :-) Since I think with my mind rather than my penis I have a different perspective on things.
I currently work with 150 women and most of them just sit and gossip.I run the computer network and phone systems for an HMO so I indeed get around the office quite a bit. They seem to only care about what a man can offer in moneys. What ever happened to team work? What ever happened to common cause? What ever happened to real lovers love, Godly love?
Your question should have been aimed at America as a culture rather than just singling out men.
Sincerely, Warren
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Subject: YES!
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 08:49:27 -0700Wonderful commentary Devvy.... the few of us that have put our butts on the line for everyone else are getting WEARY.
I hope that you get the reaction you are looking for from those gutless men out, and believe it or not, I think that there is a growing number of women out there that are looking for a man that is willing to think and act responsibly for God, family, and country.
Take care, Greg
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Subject: manhood
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 17:59:44 -0400devvy
There are men out there fighting the system, Men like Bob Schultz and others who are doing what they can and looking to the future. You do some very good work but on this you are off base. There is more to this than a quick fix . Lighten up girl. Ed
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Subject: You are sooo right! Where have all the MEN gone?
Date: Fri, 07 Jun 2002 16:31:31 -0700Thank you for putting to words what has needed to be said for quite some time. The sad realization is that it is all TRUE! The majority of the working force out there is WOMEN and most of us are single mom's. I myself was a single mom for 20 years until I recently remarried and to a most wonderful MAN whom shares the same views as myself and you. In fact it was my husband whom forwarded this article to me, and his quote was "finally a WOMAN with GUTTS to say what needs to be said!" now maybe people will take note and not just listen but do something!!!
My husband and I are both Patriots and have lost all faith in our govt as we know it now. If our Founding Fathers could see the state the Americas are in now, they'd be rolling in their graves with disgust. My husband has been an advocate against the IRS and our govt for the way inwhich they constantly twist the laws around to suit themselves at the time, however we truly believe its all about to change and soon as more and more persons come together and fight for what the Founding Fathers
fought so desperately for, our freedom and rights as a "people and individual/s" of the United States of America. IT'S HIGH TIME THE MEN OF THIS COUNTY STAND UP AND FIGHT BACK LIKE MEN INSTEAD OF THE WIMPS THEY
PORTRAY!!! COME ON GUYS CLAIM BACK YOUR MANHOOD!!!
Sincerely, Carly
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Subject: Manhood
Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 22:12:15 -0500We haven't lost our manhood, we're just currently duped like most of the women.
Ron
(Good article!)
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Subject: DIY
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 16:47:37 +0100Your attack on the men of America would be funny if it were not so close to the exact same language as used by the WKKK.
Feminists have attacked men for 3 or 4 decades. We have now turned our backs on you.
Sisters are "doin' it for" themselves, remember?
Besides, why should we stop immigrants? Who else is going to pay the taxes for the old age pensions and all other services? Our children? What children? Not only have so many of our children been directly stolen from us through state kidnapping and "child" support but you have completely destroyed marriage and families. The birth rate is off the scale. We NEED the barbarians from outside.
I suggest you grow up, carry a big stick and practise a spot of "DIY".
Alan
[Alan: I guess I'm out of the loop 'cause I haven't a clue what "DIY" means. Sorry. I destroyed marriage and families? Gee, Imust have missed that memo. DK]
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Subject: Where have all the men gone?
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 06:03:01 -1000Devvy
There are a few of us still around. :)
Great article!
Mike Rivero
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Subject: good morning
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 12:16:01 EDTamerica has lost its manhood because it has lost its health...and its wellness...and its common sense...and its compassion...and most of all...it has lost its vision...
and with the right vision sir; the "just" power can be reclaimed by its original owners...
and the only question i have to you sir;yes, you seem wise; but are you wise enough to confidently and humbly, pursure and understand true freedom and the "correct" intune circle of life that is currently here in all of its mystery and meaning?
a wise person can reason the way...serious :)
i hope this peaks your curiousity for this is not an el joko...
have a good day
peace
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Subject: Where have all the "men" gone?
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 09:26:17 -0700I'm right here.
I did my job in reporting corruption and I am still here trying to support myself and a family.
I have been forced out of a law enforcement career and am black listed as well, but I am still here.
I told the truth and I have been retaliated against for doing my job to protect this countries borders and the American public, and I am still here.
I swore an oath to protect preserve and defend the Constitution of the United States, and yet when I did my job, I was retaliated against and am being starved out of house and home. I have lost just about everything I have except contempt for the Justice system and our form of government, but I am still here.
I now have a web site to help educate everyone with regards to the atrocities of Customs Managers that are involved in corrupt activities and I get the support of ALL Customs law enforcement that have seen or read this site. www.customscorruption.com
My civil rights were violated back in 1999 when I was set up for a false traffic stop for "tinted windows" and I was illegally stopped, detained searched, had property seized, and finally charged with having a loaded handgun in my vehicle when I am a licensed private investigator as well as having death threats, etc...
Note: I was also illegally charged with having a "previous weapons" conviction that NEVER occurred. ALL charges were later dropped within 6 months. I now have a civil rights case against U.S. Customs officials and a local police department for conspiring and assisting in this illegal act. I am still here.
Despite all the death threats, Customs has seen to it that the local San Diego Sheriff;s department does NOT renew my CCW permit even though I have good cause to have one. I am still here.
How much can a man take?
If the wheels of Justice take too long, I will not wait as I am only one man. I do not have money or a good paying job. If I had money I would gladly sacrifice it to gain freedom and make choices to improve our country, but I feel abandoned by my Country and the People I swore to protect. Yet, I am still here.
I do not like to give up , no matter what. Yet, I am still here.
Are you aware that I disclosed a "special" over flight list that a high ranking Customs official named John Heinrich authorized to allow 167 foreign nationals into OUR country as far back as 1994? Internal affairs did nothing and yet a local Customs director claimed it was illegal.
These foreign nationals were coming into the U.S. from Mexico on Mexican registered aircraft and were allowed to fly into our country and land anywhere in the U.S. without any Customs or INS inspection.(Who's to say that these people were not Al Qeda?)
Still nothing is being done to correct this and these corrupt managers just keep their jobs, get promoted, or retire, while I struggle everyday.
I am still here.
John Carman
[For those of you who are unfamiliar with John Carman, he is a man of tremendous courage, personal integrity and a man who became the target of our rotten, corrupt, rancid govmint. There is material on this web site about John.
Many of us have tried to get his story out to the bigger altnerative media, forget the "mainstream," but they don't seem to be interested in the efforts by this government to destroy his life and shut him up ---efforts paid for by you and me via tax dollars.]
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Subect: Where have all the men gone?
Date: Sat, 8 Jun 2002 21:35:55 -0500Ms. Kidd,
"I felt that if one could shame a coward...." (G.S. Patton)
Your essay is right on the money. Thomas Paine would be proud. I am! If only a few of the so-called "leading" newspapers would carry it.
God Bless You!
Carl
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Subject: Where are the males
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 08:51:25 -0400Great article. Glad you wrote the truth.
Respectfully
Dallas
Protect your Family. Lock your doors and windows. Install a Security System. Buy Portable Boat Horns for each room. Buy a Gun. Practice with your Gun. Dallas
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Subject: Thank You
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 09:21:04 -0500Hi I'm a husband and father of 2 girls 10 and 12. I got started in this patriot movement about 6 years ago. Thank you for the article "Where Have All The Men Gone" and also one I found recently titled "The "I'm too Afraid" Brigade Has Arrived". My wife is so scared.
She won't read the articles I print of ( it scares her) but she makes sure she watches the 6:00 news, 11:00 news, Date Line, 20/20 and all the other ones. She says their is no way one person is going to make a difference. If you don't like this country then go live somewhere else to live. She don't what me to talk to friends and family about this stuff. Anytime we have company over I must make sure their aren't any nonpolitical correct papers laying around. She so scared we are going to loose our house, their are going to take our kids away etc.. She says why don't you what to live a peaceful life no confrontation.
She afraid of what family , friend and neighbors will think if they "find out" like we are criminals. I say our founding father committed treason when they signed the Declaration of Independence were hey criminals. I'm out here alone no one to talk to, I do have a couple friend I e-mail but one to sit down talk with face to face. I'm a Christian man and my faith is the only think that keeps me going and what I'm doing is right.
A pastor told me that a Christian must be a person that the community can look up to with respect and the Bible dose not call us to confront civil government. he also said the only way the country is going to change is a revival. Ya I agree but a revival for what. Our founding fathers were men of faith and I believe they relied on that faith in all their decisions. So I think its going to take men so angry about the condition our country is in combined with the strength of God to help them over come this evil. That's when we will have change. Well 6 years ago when I started this quest for truth, "the truth shall set you free" well I found the truth but no freedom, well maybe the freedom won't come in this life time. Thank you for letting me vent.
God Bless
Mark
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Subject:
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 11:59:39 -0400Dear Devvy:
I applaud the tone and basic messages of your website. Like thousands of others in this once great nation I must sit in silence lest I be tossed in jail for some trumped charge like hate speech.
I was fascinated by your article asking where are the real men. As well you ought know many men have been emasculated by the likes of a Bella Abzug or Hillary Clinton. I'm sure you are familiar with the great writings of Paul Craig Roberts. The caucasian male has been targeted for economic and literal extermination. In offices today men still can not work as administrative assistants, receptionists or secretaries yet women are allowed to work in once male dominated fields while not performing with the same physical gusto as a man. Notice it was all male firefighters and policement that died in the WTC attacks.
Anyhow, we both know that unbridled immigration will (has) ruined this nation. The Carlyle group and all of the NWO creeps have determined that they want to replace the once proud and brave American of Saxon/German ancestry with docile compliant AsiansMexicans et al who will accept any horrible conditions in order not to have to live in their native hell holes. Need I say that when thecountry is glutted with Phillipinos, Dominicans Et Cetera that our wages and standard of living will go down. We are doomed Ms.Kidd.
Take Care,
James
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Subject: Where have all the men gone
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 22:50:04 -0400Devvy, I read your article, where have all the 'MEN' gone several times over the weekend and I have to say that I somewhat agree with you. I am sure that they are out there, I'm not quite sure how exactly to get them into action. I personally went through a 15 plus year fight with the IRS. After going through several attorneys and C.P.A's I finally took matters in my own hands and wrote a book, I Fear No One, Especially My Own Government, and sent a letter to Senator Roth during the Senate Finance Committee hearings on IRS abuse over 3 years ago.
Senator Roth turned my letter over to a panel looking into IRS abuse and Angus Lucas of that Committee not only found me not guilty but stated that there was no reason for this to have ever happened. Even though I was not guilty, it did not stop the IRS from destroying my family through a divorce, destroying 2 businesses, seizing the patent for the ShuffleBowl game I invented and put into production and everything I had ever worked for.
After being found not guilty, Doug Cline of the Cincinnati office of the IRS made a repayment agreement with me with my accountant as a witness for $44,129,000 to be paid over a 56 quarterly period. I received a particle payment of $20,692 before the IRS reneged on the payment agreement. They simply told me if I didn't agree, sue them. I am still fighting back, not just to get my money but to put the IRS out of business, legally and peacefully.
I have a web site, www.endtheirs.com which has a Letter of Protest that over 26,000 people around the country are sending in over 600,000 letter a month to the IRS office in Cincinnati, Ohio. Is it the answer or will it put the IRS out of the extortion business, I don't really know but I as sure as hell going to give a try. Over the past two years I have refused to pay income tax and have sent the IRS a bill instead, both returns are posted on the web site.
If you have the time youmay want to read my 2001 letter and bill to the IRS. I think you would find it very interesting. In so far as where have all the men gone, there are some of us fighting the fight. The problem, as you well know, is how to get enough men in the fight where we can start to get our government turned around in the right direction. Once again, I know that they, the men, are out there and I truly believe that they are ready to fight if necessary, it's just when will one of us be financially able to get the message out to enough of them to make a difference?
Sincerely,
Donald E. Iiams, Jr.
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Subject: please forward this to Devvy
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 22:55:25 -0400Dear Devvy,
I recently read your essay, the one that asked the question, "Where have all the men gone?" I couldn't agree with you more. I ask that you continue reading this letter as I relate, to you, my past and current tribulations with the "family" court system. I will be brief and I also hope that you will ask me, by reply, for more information.
In 1993, my wife of 11 years decided to divorce me, her perogative in the no-fault era. My attorney rolled me over and I was saddled with family support (three kids), established by guidlines (thus denying me equal protection under the law), that forced me to live in squalor. This story is repeated millions of times in this country as you well know.
After 2 yearsof paying support, my wife and kids moved to another state, after I also went out of state for a better job. For all intents and purposes, for me they had disappeared! I hired an attorney, James Koehler, and for the next 7 years, I looked for them. The State Parent Locator Service refused to let me access their service, was told that a judge must order them to help me and that the service was mainly for moms to find deadbeat dads.
After many thousands of dollars paid to the attorney, made available by loans and his telling me not to pay any support, and many trips to the judge, er, commissioner Zakon, it turned out that the DAs office knew where they were all the time but was assisting my ex-wife to hide by not making their address known to me. It took three orders from Zakon to force the DA to relay that information to my attorney, and then they sent it to the court clerk!
To make the story short, Koehler blew through all the money I gave him and was assured that another 10k would get it [the final judgment] appealed. I scraped and begged the money, it paid for no more than the opening brief before he had used up that. When I informed Koehler that I could get no more money, he dropped me and the case right where it was, the appelate ruling upheld the lower courts and here I am today.
I HAD APPLIED FOR ASSISTANCE WITH THE WALLACE GROUP, BECAUSE THEY WORKED FOR CONSTITUTIONAL ISSUES, AND WAS TOLD THEY DON'T GET INVOLVED IN FAMILY COURT MATTERS!!!
Here was a perfect opportunity to stand the court system and public policy on it's head for several constitutional reasons, the main being denial of equal protection guaranteed by the 14th amendment, the fact that the state was complicit in the concealment of my children, the denial of due process, guaranteed under the 5th amendment, by the rigid use of support guidlines that eliminate the need for evidence that the children actually need as much money as the guidlines dictate.
WHERE WAS THE WALLACE INSTITUTE WHEN IT COULD HAVE DONE SOME GOOD?
The institute had a chance, and probably still does, to help a man who is trying to stand up to a system with unlimited money, who is trying to be the couragious man that your article asks of his whereabouts. I wasn't trying to get out of supporting my kids and of having a relationship with them, rather, I wanted to have a relationship with them, to watch them grow and to be involved in their lives.
This was denied to me by the L.A. DA and the court system in his pocket. More importantly, my kids have been denied a father. They are now nearly grown but the burden on me continues to grow, further, any money I send to my kids does not count, I must pay it to the state, to be disbursed to who knows.
How can one man with courage, do it alone?
Thanks for your time,
Rudge Shepherd[I have a memory like an elephant and would remember the name Rudge, however, I do not recall speaking with this individual nor getting any correspondence. When people contact me for many different types of litigation problems, even if I can't help them, I try to steeer them to someone who can. My phone rings all day long with horror stories that make me want to cry because I can't do anything to help most of these people being slain by state and federal agencies.
Having said that, The Wallace Institute, as our supporters understand, focus only on certain issues, the same as legal firms who only represent clients on family court matters or international trade clients. Our resources are extremely limited and even if Larry did specialize in this field of law, we wouldn't be able to have taken on Mr. Shepherd's case because Larry can only litigate so many cases. It's not a matter of not caring, it's a matter of human and financial resources.
I wish it could be different, but it isn't. Mr. Shepherd's horror story, as he said, is multiplied a million times across this country. We see county, state and federal prosecutors of both sexes partipating in this unholy business and it's beyond sickening.
Time is an issue for everyone. I have a new section on this site titled Solutions. There are tens of thousands of organizations that have sprung up all across this country to try and stop this garbage and get bad laws killed and off the books. In the Solutions section, I'm going to provide as much information as I can so people will know what can be done and who to contact. Unfortunately, I can only get so much work done in each 8-day week.]
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Subject: Thanks
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 22:15:47 -0500Timely article. I've forwarded it all of the men in my address book. Thanks.
Steve
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Subject: Manhood
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 23:08:06 -0400Hi,
Read both your articles at newswithviews.com. The second one was a riot to read, you must have a gag person writing the funny lines, if not please tell us what nutritional supplements you use. Now that you have stated that the men allowed Clinton to get away with all those crimes we need another article from you about the women in America who made it possible for this Clinton and his goons to get into office. It is no trouble to find out that the womens vote made it possible for Clinton to win, twice. So if the men let him get away with it then please tell us what you think of the women who voted for him and his ilk. Your failure to write this article will be a little unfair.
[A note to this e-mailer about women letting Clinton get away with treason. Please look back at the phony impeachment of that blackguard. The absolute majority of the house managers were men. Henry Hyde worked to kill the whole deal, right along with that snake in the grass, Trent Lott. Please save your drivel for someone who isn't interested in facts.]
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Subject: WOW
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 20:28:32 -0700 (PDT)You're my kind of gal! I've been fighting that unGodly feminist movement since the 80s while most guys are sitting with their six-pack in front of the TV watching their favorite sports program or John Wayne movie. I don't know why they don't figure out women like John Wayne types. We want our men to be strong and stand up for us. We don't wish to fight the battles but in the absence of men standing up for us, we've learned to stand up for ourselves.
I'm reminded of The Song of Deborah in Judges 5. This lack of will on the part of God's soldiers is taken up in the song of Deborah and Barak. It is one thing to be paralyzed by fear and confusion in combat that the soldier fails to use his weapon. In that case there is at least the plus factor of his presence alongside his buddies that keeps the morale from completely crumbing but to stay at home...minding the sheep like Reubin and not be involved at all is sin!!
All those who fit this description should be praying: Dear Father. I confess that often fear, ignorance, indecision or sometimes just sheer laziness have earned for me the curse of Meroz (Jud. 5:23). I have not come to the help of the Lord against His enemies but have stayed at home. For this sin, I ask your forgivness. And, since I must fight if I would reign, increase my courage, Lord.
I'm a 66 year old grandma! Married for 47 years and have three kids and six grandkids.
Just sign me ANONYMOUS
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Subject: Re: WHERE HAVE ALL THE 'MEN' GONE? - By Devvy Kidd
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 03:55:20 +0000I, as many other Texas men, have concluded that Americans are by and large a weak lot of brainless fools that will march willingly or should I say blindly into the hands of the NWO.
So where have all the men gone? The same place people like Davy Crockett of Tennessee went in 1836. To Texas.
That is where we are and this is where we are digging in.
So thanks for asking Mr. Kidd. Now your readers can go back to their CNN program, back to discussing who or what blew up the Pentagon (as if I ever thought America needed 10,000 clueless generals and admirals marching around a satanic shaped building anyway), or back to sleep as the situation warrants.
Randy
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Subject: Manhood
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 08:19:44 -0400I read your opinion piece on American having lost its manhood. I have to tell you that I think Survivor is a good show. Other than that I agree with you totally. Great column.
Andy
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Subect:
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 07:30:07 -0500Dear Devvy,
I read your article on the state of affairs in the USA, but like to ask you one question, where is God in all this, is he not still in control, will he not look after His own, did he not say in His Word that these things will happen before His return for His own? People are inclined to look at the negatives instead of the fact that God is Sovereign and very MUCH in control. My word to you this morning is that this world as we know it is not our final home, so why concern yourself so-much about the way things are going, the Bible Gods Word said these things will come to pass, but the Lord said be of good cheer for He Jesus has overcome the world, What we need to concentrate on is to be ready to meet the Lord when He comes, and try and rescue as many lost souls as possible out of this chaos, called the world.
Yours truly
Rocco, ThD. PhD.
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Subject: Where have all the Men Gone?
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 06:32:28 -0700Nice article. You will find that many of the men that stand up have their credibility destroyed and eventually wind up in prison.
Paul
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Subject: Where Have All The 'Men' Gone
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:08:21 -0700You have said a mouthfull! All true!!! If only you lived nearby (Austin, Tx), I'd join you in a minute! How about a 1Billion Woman march to throw the bastards in DC out?
I don't know why the men are like they are -- after all, I'm eating, drinking the same thing my husband is -- how come I still have my marbles? How come I face reality, not afraid of confrontation, speaking my mind, am armed -- and he's not?
How come I'm outraged by the shaft we're subjected to and he's not? I just don't get it. How come he thinks he's "protecting" me when in reality he refuses to see what's going on? How come he will watch the media whores on TV (and believe them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) and I won't?
It's obvious you don't have any answers either, otherwise you would have provided it!!!!! Include me if you ever begin that 1Billion Woman march!
sonia
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Subject: Sorry
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:32:07 -0500Devvy:
I am sorry that some of my male counterparts called you those horrible names. I think the problem was they did not read your article carefully enough to realize you are on their side, you just want them to get off of their behinds and do something to stop what is happening. I could not agree with you more! "keep fighting the good fight "
Steve
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Subject: America has lost it's manhood!!!
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 19:33:25 -0500Hello Devy,
My name is Jay and I just read both of your articles about America losing it's manhood. I have to agree with most of it. Of course much of it gets down to perspective (ie. male or female). That is to say, which came first? The Chicken? Or the Egg? Did women become feminists because men neglected them or did men quit caring about women because of the insults of the women's rights movement?
Probably some of both.
I lost a job because I spoke out against forcing a man, (me) to fly in the same airline cockpit with a woman after two female first officers made sexual advances on me in the cockpit. Pretty high price to pay without inflicting any damage to the enemy.
I have to agree with you that many of the men nowdays are bigger feminists than the women and are afraid to stand up and buck the system.
But you said enough things that indicate at least partial clear thinking on the issues that I couldn't help but ask this question in order to see if there is in fact anything left that is worth fighting for in America.
Here it is. Do you believe that women should have the right to vote and hold political office? Also, please tell me what other rights you believe that a woman should have.
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Subject: WHERE HAVE ALL THE GOOD MEN GONE?
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 21:22:58 -0400Dear Devvy,
Congratulations on an article well written. Keep up the good fight.
Karen
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Subject: hello
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 21:33:19 EDThello devvy , i couldnt agree with you more on your article "where Have All the Men Gone".. many men and many who i know are asking why we cant be more than we are today. its almost like an invisible foirce thats been taken away from us..of course our govt and a few[like you said feminists have alot to do with this] .men really sit back, course the reason is they have no power to do anything about anything anymore. you date someone watch out! you say anything to someone watch out!,you speak your mind about something but in a respectful manner , what out!!. i always ask some women i know , hey what do you think about men now adays..its so funny, almost 99 percent say, ohh there shy it seems..amazing i really really wonder why that is[course we All know why that is!!... take care and god bless,, mark
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Subject: re:Men,
Date: Mon, 10 Jun 2002 21:46:45 -0400Hi,
Thanks for your article, I love it...it's so true... I believe it says somewhere in the Bible in the enditmes men will behave like women? Something like that. It's partially the NWO 's fault but it's largely a lack of responsibility. I heard David Moore, More on life, on MooreonLife.com say over 80 million people in this country are alcohol or drug related problemsor families of them.?
I haven't check out the figure but it's believable to me. unfortunately for America. Thanks again, it's at least comforting to read someone has the same opinion. I will say most women I know are also self centered and mindless. Of course most women are busy raising kids and working...so I will hesitate to put blame on them, that's a twenty four hour a day job already.
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To: <[email protected]>
Subject: re: " Where have all the Men Gone?"
Date: Sun, 9 Jun 2002 16:29:46 -0400Hello, Devvy; !
My name is Martha and I just had the good fortune to read your article, mentioned above, at Rense.com.
It was incredibly refreshing to read about the decimation which has occured now that we, women also but specificly men in the areas you have addressed, no longer define ourselves by our responsibilities. It used to be that our ego stength was influened by how we felt about the success or failures of our contributions.....to our family but also the larger family of community, local- global.And of course how our characters looked under the harsh light of societys expectation that we be active ,participating , responsible creators of the American culture- politicly and socially.
I wish your kind of honesty and provocative drive to EXAMINE IT! FIX IT! Return the country to the people responsible for it: Us......even if ideolologicly ...would become a new meme which would infect the culture.
You spoke to the heart of my frustration , polticly and socially. I'm wise enough now in my forties to understand than Men and women are different , equally responsible for the landscape in the America......but....it different way.
Women desire what they admire. I feel absolved of a bit of my frustration in finding few men who I actually wish to date. Because I *see* what you see. And....I just cannot make anyone or anything look better than it is.....Men that care about whether they have a good houseshare in the Hamptons and how much I earn (or don't) as an artist ; men who feel no political/social responsibility leave me cold.
I know so many women who will feel vindicated by your article , Devvy, as it speaks to the quiet feelings that many of have, guiltfully. Just as poisioned by the PC culture which is loyal to our *right* to narcissism. How dare we ask for more from our Men? But.....Of course we do. I thank you for your wonderful piece .....
My best, Martha
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Subject: Questioning America's Manhood...
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 07:27:34 -0400Devvy,
Great article and right on the money! I applaud your efforts to 'stop the tyranny'. I do wish we had many more just like you!
Keep up the good work and as my dear departed father used to tell me 'don't let the bas-tards get you down'.
Perhaps one day you would like to do a live interview with us via Internet Radio, if so, let me know. Thanks.
Sincerely, Dan
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Subject: Response to "Where Have all the Men Gone"
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 12:32:01 EDTDear Devvy,
I read about the responses you have had to your article. The ironic thing is that those that responded negatively are of the same mind set as you are! They just didn't 'get it'. It must have something to do with the male ego!
Don't fret about the negatives. Keep on writing. You say all the right things. Keep up the good work.
Ginny
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Subject: To Devvy.....
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 11:07:44 -0700Hi there, KIDD-o.... (no disrespect intended)
That was a good article on "Where Are The Men". Your right on target. It's been wimpville for so many years now in Hollyweedland that it's sickening. There don't seem to be many even coming close to the Duke Wayne, Clark Gable, Tyrone Power, Ward Bond, Jimmy Stewart, Ronald Reagan, Errol Flynn standards anymore.
The few who even dare to be conservative get the living hell bashed out of them. Rick Shroeder, who has been a member of the NRA since he was 16, loves to shoot, and is a Republican, is on the Hollywood excrement list. Even Mel Gibson gets little respect in spite of epics like Braveheart and The Patriot.
And....to your hubby.....a big, heartfelt "thanks" from this American who respects our service men and women who really joined and served for the good of the Republic (as opposed to the many, these days, who joined for the benefits and a job and don't want to fight).
My dad was a proud Marine....1930-'34 when Congress was so penny-pinching that they often were issued only a bucket of water on board his ship, the brand new USS Louisville, a 10,000 ton cruiser built and put into service in the early thirties. They had to bath, wash clothing, and shave in that one little bucket of fresh water. Otherwise, they had to use salt water.
Worst part is that congress has never recognized the men who served in our military between WW I and WW II as veterans. That is a real slap in the face and now, most are gone. I imagine that after they all die off, congress will then "discover" this error and rectify it because they will not have to pay any veteran benefits then.
Keep up the good writing.
Mel
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From: "Jack"
To: <[email protected]>
Subject: Re; Where Have All the "Men" Gone
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 09:46:02 -0400Dear Mrs. Kidd,
I read your article on rense.com. This is the letter I sent to him in hopes he would forward it to you. I didn't see that your website addy was on the page. Since I am not sure if he did, I am sending it directly to you. As a matter of fact, I am hoping he didn't. It also appears I missed the part where it says "her" in describing you.
LOL I assumed you were a man and the letter had Mr. Kidd in it. My apologies if you were forwarded it. I did add the s to Mr. in this one. As a man I hate to say this, but you are correct when you say it is mostly women on the front lines in these times. I belong to a Patriot group on Yahoo. Most of the members are women and they are also the one's doing most of the preparations at home. Many complain their husbands are doing nothing to help get prepared for whatever may be coming down the pike! It's sickening. My wife has a theory...she says most of the real men died during WWII. Would like to laugh about it and maybe debate her on it, but I also feel this is the truth.
Dear Mr. Rense and Mrs. Kidd,
Excellent article! I have been standing upon the soapbox of common sense years before 911. Asking "men" what was wrong with them and trying to find out what the hell went wrong. What destroyed their manhood? Mrs. Kidd, I agree with you about it starting forty years ago. The bra burning was the first major shot fired against men. Instead of fighting back, they ducked and covered. They opened the gates and gave the green light for more assaults against what it means to be a man.
The first assaults appeared to be mostly minor skirmishes. Nothing major, but they were exacting a perfect set up for the first major battle. Their front "man" was on the television everyday bowing and scraping before the militant lesbians that utterly had an intense hatred for men. Haven't you ever noticed most of the feminist organizations are led and have many members who are lesbian? Anyway, that man was Phil Donahue. He was their preacher, their mouthpiece, their pawn, who told the real women of this country that men need to learn to become "more sensitive". He got the ball rolling and soon you could read articles everywhere about how men should accomplish this.
The "men" tried to accommodate the pleadings of the media and women. They became more sensitive and in turn, feminized. It is not surprising that gay is cool and if you are not bisexual, then you are evil these days. When you make a man into a male version of a female, you can expect no less than this result. The television filled up with actors who were sensitive. Some onscreen and some were this way off screen. Alan Alda is a perfect example of this type of person. Real men were now seen as chauvinistic pigs, cavemen, or were accused of being woman haters. They didn't hate women, they only knew how to be real men.
This went on for years. Finally, a major magazine (don't remember which one) published an article asking where the real men had gone. Real women started wondering about this also. They wanted their men back. Unfortunately that damage was already deep. Songs stated coming out that were calling women bitches and ho's.
In rap and rock the anger of men towards women was out in the open. It seethed with it and continues to this very day. Women went up in arms over it, but what did you expect? Your silence of what was being done to your husbands, boyfriends, and sons contributed greatly to it all. Makes me ask the question, where have all the real women gone?
Now the television is full of commercials that make men appear stupid. Has been for a couple of years. Is this their response for the bad mouthing of women in songs? What's stupid is how both sides of the sexes continue on with another's agenda to separate us even more.
Mrs. Kidd, you are so very right on how "men" sit around and say nothing about what is happening to this country from so many negative angles. Dangerous developments to our children and women. As long as they have a golf round waiting or a football game to watch, they are content. Could it be the anger at the belittlement towards them they see everyday is causing their do nothing attitude? I don't know. We are supposed to be the protectors of the women and children. Not just the ones that belong to us, but all of them.
Not talking about from muggers and burglars, but the much more greater dangers they now face because "men" sat idly by. I have gotten into many arguments against these so called men. A few fist fights also. It's getting tiring being on the front lines that so few "men" see as being worthy of fighting for. No matter how tired and disgusted
I get, I shall continue on until the day I die. Be careful because I have found there are many "men" who just pretend at being men. They talk of being ready to take action, but when it comes down to it, they back out. Back to the safety of their home where they can pretend to feel safe and in charge. The only thing these types are in charge of are their own demise. Ours to if we don't figure out some course of action that will work in making them realize what it means to be a man.
Sincerely, Jack
I Want To Die In My Sleep Like My Grandfather Not Yelling And Screaming
Like The Passengers In His Car
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Subject: The Men
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:03:45 +0000Why should any real man come out of hiding and do anything for this stupid country now when he can wait until it collapses, to do anything now would be like trying to paint a wall during the day at i a daycare with children running around with crayons and today's typical female wactching over them.
PS if you stopped being biased against men long enough, you'll probably notice that half of all football games and other forms of entertainment consists of women, and apparently they aren't too worried about being raped or murdered by some dirty illegal lowly Mexican or they would be spending their money to buy a gun or to buy make up and find a big brute to protect them or take karate lessons.
Julio
Anyway, you've amounted to Yet another male basher Devvy, but I still appreciate your site and do refer you to others.
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Subject: The truth hurts. Thank you
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:10:16 -0400Dear Ms. Kidd:
I don't care what most of those people said. You stated the truth. They either failed to read your first paragraph or they have a real problem with their manhood or the truth hurt them because it was they you spoke of.
Myself, I feel quit secure with who I am.
Respectfully
Dallas
USA Ret.
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Subject: Re: QUESTIONING AMERICA'S MANHOOD DRAWS MORE EXCUSES By Devvy Kidd
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 14:37:02 -0500
Keep on giving them (milquetoast men) hell Devvy. I still believe, and am ready, that a revolt is coming in this country or the Lord is going to return very soon.
Drew
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Subject: Just Read About All the Negative Emails You Are Receiving
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:23:44 -0400Dear Mrs. Kidd,
Every once in awhile I get an article published on the net. I am very controversial and intentionally so. From everything I see, nothing else is working, so I am trying to "shock" people into waking up. I also get some negative responses to the majority of my articles. That's fine because it shows it has touched someone enough, in whatever way, to respond. It is my hope it gets them to start thinking and quit being so dependent on the mainstream media. Too many people rely on it to "tell" them what they should think. They also let it draw their conclusions for them. Personally, I equate doing things this way to almost being spiritually dead.
Getting horrible responses to an article is never pleasant, but remember, you touched these people in some manner. Some, after initially getting over their anger, may start seeing themselves in a different light. They may change. Something seems to be working because look at what is happening in Nevada with the cattle problem and in Oregon. Also the tax revolt in Tennessee. The story of how Bush and others knew about the coming attack on 911 has been circulating the net since day one. It eventually forced the administration to admit they knew all along. We do have our victories.
Your article was right on the money and the question, where have all the men gone, is a valid one. I gave you my opinion of what happened, but I also admitted I didn't know. America was once populated by fighters of freedom and there are so few left. I'm trying to get them going again and so are you. I cannot ever give up my hope that our side will win and people will awaken. Last thing, sometimes the truth hurts and it sure seemed to have bothered the male idiots that wrote negative letters to you. It seems to me they were defending themselves for being exactly what you wrote about.
Sincerely, Jack
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Subject: On Target
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:27:34 -0400"Where Have All The Men Gone"- Right on target Devvy. I put out a free, one sheet newsletter and keep hammering on the same subject as your article, but you write much better than I. Never mind the negatives you receive- good riddance to them. I thank you for the article. Stay the course.
Our Heavenly Father's Blessings and Protection on You,
Dewey
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Subject: Questioning America's Manhood Draws More Excuses
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 16:15:06 -0500Devvy, you are born again, hard!
Tim
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Subject: Too few men
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:24:05 -0500Dear Devvy,
Just read Where have all the 'men' gone?
I agree with you completely. I have said for years that this country suffers from a lack of men. Sometimes I feel like I am shoveling you-know-what against the tide.
Pols know I am a member of a minority class, (men), therefore they put me on ignore. They don't even bother to send me canned answers anymore. I won't quit letting them know that I 'know' that they know and since they are wimps I can hope that at the very least I am a royal pain in their ass.
I am beginning to ramble, but I am mad as hell and don't have a solution to the problem; how to make men out of wimps. Years ago, when I was training boys to be men, they had the correct DNA. I'll leave it there.
Please keep writing articles like this at every opportunity. If we don't start gaining ground it's all over but the shouting.
Thank you for a stimulating article and thank your husband for his service to our country.
Sincerely,
CMSgt Gerit J. Moehlenpah USAF (ret)
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Subject: Where have all the Men Gone and the Sequel
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 15:54:31 -0700 (PDT)Dear Ms. Kidd --
You've succeeded in hurling vituperation at one side of the problem of mutual rejection between the American genders, or, as we used to say, sexes.
I submit to you the problem won't be solved until the other side of the problem is cleared up, too. When more men were "real men", it was not they who made a fetish of walking away from home and children to "find themselves" or "escape oppression" or celebrated, ominously, those who did. They did not demand government-sponsored hormone injections that would allow them to nurse children or that science develop surgery that would enable them to conceive and bear children.
They did not storm the Home Ec departments demanding inclusion or scream "sexist pig!" at any woman who asked them to help lift something heavy -- or celebrate, ominously, those who did. They did not lecture any woman who did not stand back and wait for them to open the door and they did not also lecture any woman who did, calling her a pathetic dependent personality -- or say, "Right on, brother", ominiously, to any who did.
The fact is, Mom gets the head start on social indoctrination, essentially until the age the boy child can put on a baseball mitt or so, and if she has not indoctrinated him to be emotionally dependent on feminine approval (and her daughters to expect and maneuver for that emotional upper hand) by that time, she missed it. Reference is made to a famous novel from a time when there were plentiful real men, presumably, Tom Sawyer, and a public that found nothing at all unusual in young Tom's fence-walking and otherwise showing off to impress Becky Thatcher.
In the "real men" days, the boys asked and the girls accepted or rejected. It wasn't the boys who demanded the girls start doing the asking, especially with an attitude of entitlement to be accepted should they do so. If you personally reward, as woman, all manly men, good for you. But to ignore the fact that the culturally prevailing sector of womanhood doesn't is to indulge deliberate obtuseness.
It's not a man's duty to love, honor, and cherish a woman who sees it as her duty to be as cantankerous as possible, or at least reserve her right to be so when, if, and as it suits her purpose, mood, or impulse. If women want to be loved, they'd best recall
how to be lovable. Don't ask this man to specify: I'll know it when I see it again. When great numbers of women demanded to have it both ways, great numbers of men decided there were plenty of manly things to do other than be husbands, fathers, protectors, to call none "their" women.
Please acknowledge the demographics behind the vote that put the Clintons in office. Would you have had brave men scourge women away from the voting booths and then go gladly off to jail?
Maybe real men would do same for you, individually. But for the prevailing herd, it's just not worth it, lady! Gladly willing accessories, appliances, accommodating livestock, (do something!) factotums, most men just ain't, unless constantly and artfully induced. Never were, never will be.
The gals are gonna have to try another tack.
John
[I cannot put any stock in the "vote" that you allude to regarding Mr. Clinton getting the White House - either time. If you have read my Blind Loyalty booklet on vote fraud, you'd know what I'm talking about. Vote fraud rules the ballot box and anyone who thinks otherwise, hasn't done their homework or wishes to stay in a state of denial or a self-imposed coma for comfort. DK]
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Subject:
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 18:23:50 -0700Thanks for telling it like it is and not backing down.
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Subject: Congradulations
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 21:42:26 EDTDear Ms. Kidd,
Greetings to you in 'The Word'. Ha!! How all the 'arm-chair quarterback' love to rant and rave about anything that suits their fancy...especially the alledged FREEDOM.
You have done right, castigating these 'weak-hearted' wantabee's.:) I have for many years done the same thing. In fact, in my lectures I tell the audience that you can get a better fist-fight out of a woman today then from a man in defending oneself.
You know and so do I that we are already into a deadly war. It is for all the marbles, bar none. But words without action is VOID. And that is what the majority of men are lacking...is the action. I don't want to take up much of your precious time, as we all have our plates full.
Have a good day and YAHWEH bless and protect you and yours.
James
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Subject: I agree
Date: Tue, 11 Jun 2002 23:00:20 -0400I agree with you wholeheartedly. I think the majority of men in this country are all talk. Cowards if you may. I'm not saying women are much better, in fact quite the opposite (with the exception of my wonderful lady). Let's just put it in it's simplest terms.
Americans as a whole are a bunch of spineless cowards. However there are more of us out there than I thought and this does give me some comfort. Keep up your good work. If it was me standing alone against the whole world with no one else supporting my beliefs I wouldn't blink. So if the time ever comes where you need assistance collecting signatures, etc etc. You know the stuff that no one has stepped forward to help you with I'll be there. Be well. Bryan
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Subject: Where did all them wannabe men head off to?
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 00:35:48 -0600Got me, Ms. Kidd. Excellent article. I heard about those that knock you and the article and use all them fancy swear words to express their feelings. Like little kids. Well, they answered your rhetorical question (I presume it was rhetorical) right there. Where ever them men went, they ain't here.
Me, I'm a man, but not the kind of man you're looking for. I used to write my senators and congressmen, but that never did anything. I still vote, not sure why as we both know they can buy votes from people that's been dead for decades. I figure I can pull punches on why I ain't doing anything, and I know you can as well for why I should. Actually, I hope you do.
It's hard to care about a country when it seems like 99.9% of the people are against me. It don't matter if being a member of a militia is part of the US codes (USC 10, I think). It don't matter if people are burned alive in churches, heck not many people go to churches anyways and a good number of those that do have this crazy idea that just because they're going to heaven they're already saved and who really cares what happens here? Guess they forgot that we're our brother's keepers.
Out of the untold numbers of people I have been in contact with, in person, of the past 5-6 years, I have only met a handful that really gave a damn about America. And even then, I have my doubts. Sad, isn't it?
Carl
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Subject: Wo/Manhood
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 02:49:51 -0500From: "Euphorian"
From https://www.newswithviews.com/news_worthy.htm
Because America has lost it's manhood.
I won't enter into the fray of stereotypes, whether politically, politely, polemically, or pollutedly, correct.
However, we must address the manhood issue, that of today as compared with yesteryear (say, a half century ago and beyond).
In the first place, many of those who influence the ways of the current American political thought processes tend to be of a different character than those of olden times. Those who fought to divorce themselves from the governance of the Britlanders did indeed have to risk a great number of sacrifices. But that was a coupla hunnerd years ago and times, they was different. I would suggest that the greatest difference was the group of people who opted out of Britlandia got tired of all of the family and religious squabbles replete in Europe at the time. They were here, and they weren't going to run away (unless they were Tories and they went to
Canada).Secondly, if we consult the immigration tables for the past two hundred years, we find a vast majority of those who emigrated from their countries of origin did so in the process of running away from their problems. I don't care which group you choose, the Irish, the Italians, the Germans, or any of the various Asian groups (outside of those who were caused to be imported to North America), any one of them chose to come to the United States or Canada because of their hopes for a better life, different from the ones they had.
Herein lies the chafe (heavy rub). While the founders of the United States had to stand their ground, the current batch of "Americans" are made up groups who would not stand up for their rights and chose to make it easy on their oppressors: they left.
This may not be true for each and every one who traveled to these shores but with the Starvation in Ireland, the Boat People from VietNam, and the various others who were victimised in the "old country", Lady Liberty (which I consider to be a wry joke courtesy of the French ("take our useless ...")) welcomes those who find strength only in shadows of those who did make sacrifices and faced real risks. After all, had they lost to the Britlanders, what options would they have had? Jail or the American Natives?
So, what was once considered the American mettle has become a transplanted veneer of the European mystery metal. With the ardour of several pResidents to revisit the ways of the Old World, especially that of the form of inter-family wars, specifically those involving the very country the Founders gained the famous divorce, Britland, with ardour these men committed other peoples' children to fighting against foes who posed little if any threat to the United States.
And we know that the Saxe- Coburgs only changed their name to Windsor in the middle of some 1914-18 tiff. From there, the old imperialist virus came back to life, giving us the world in which we live today. Only now, the tide's turning. When the fog of youthful indiscretion burns off, when the Residents get their heads clear, when the real intent of the United States is rediscovered, we might find a whole new old country.
Once the Americans stand up and begin to dictate to their civil servants what the score should be, and not the civil servants taking orders from the elites and dictating them to the people, only then will the putrified odour of gentrification aux Europeans be cleared away with fresh and rejuvenating air. Only when the cult of respectless victimisation is hurled into the Golgothic chasm will the American spirit be free to reemerge, to once more shine as a beacon to the world, in a world where Americans are are respectful of others as they are of themselves, respect earned by their own blood, sweat and tears, and not on the backs of others.
(oh, MSgt, USAF (ret))
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Subject: Questioning America's Manhood Draws More Excuses
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:02:37 -0500Ms. Kidd,
You done good!
They have attempted to "shoot the messenger."
(They) are the supercilious among us.
I occasionally respond to published thoughts of learned expositors - and I consider you one.
Keep up the good punditry.
Oh! by the way; Let's say something GOOD about vets on the 4th of July. I know you just love your's! ;-)
Luther
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Subject: howdy.
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:28:27 -0500lol.. howdy... i have read your article... and speaking as a MAN... i have to AGREE with you ma'am... you hit the NAIL RIGHT ON THE HEAD... the men in this nation have turned into spineless cowards... and i hate to say that.. but the truth is the truth... but i ALSO have to say the FEMINIST... to me'' are MEN HATERS...there is GOOD MEN, AND WOMEN out there, wondering what has happened? to this country... and like you, i wonder WHY the same brain dead PC crowd keeps getting elected?? time after time... i think this country is coming down, from WITHIN LIKE ROME DID... and the ONLY WAY TO STOP IT... is the people must to it... Jim..
Jim
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Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:17:45 -0400
Hello!
Great article "where have all the men gone" -- and so true. I served as a Marine (back in the 80's, when they expected women in the military to ACT like women - not bull-dykes) and married a Green Beret, who is now retired after 23 years. I absolutely cannot stomach what is passed off as "males" of today. My personal guess is the vast majority of women would rather have a John Wayne than that smarmy girly-boi, Alan Alda, anyday.
We have a 4 year old son and we're planning on homeschooling him. He'll never set foot in a government school if we have anything to do with it. Last evening he was playing "guns" - something he saw on a cartoon - and saying "I'll shoot you". I told my husband that if he did that in public school today - they'd haul us all in front of a Social Services shrink (quack) and put our son on Ritalin!
Great article - I'm passing the link onto my email group.
Tami
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Subject: Questioning America's Manhood Draws More Excuses
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:25:32 -0500One of the best articles I have seen in a long long time. Wake up men and smell the coffee. I to am a woman who has struggled in this man's world for mens positions to be able to raise my kids alone after one of these so called men burned down my home and tried to get us in the fire. Not one day did he do in the pen for arson. So do I hear where you are coming from LOUD AND CLEAR.
I am not a feminists. and as far as am concerned they have set the real woman back instead of helping. I also have spoken out against these so called women.
Give us more of this and wake these sleeping so called men up and get them doing what they should do instead of hurting us more. We have rights. I mean we as in Americans and humans not male nor female let us be equal and earn from our own merit not from being male or female.I don't think there is a hope of changing the feminists. they are too intent on self destruction.
Jeanette
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Subject: Where are the men?
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 06:39:50 -0700Hi, Devvy!
I fully agree with the article. I've been preaching this for years, mostly to deaf ears. I really appreciate the work you do, and I visit your website almost every day. In my years in the patriot movement (since 1979) I've seen countless instances of women refusing to back up their patriot husbands as they (sometimes desperately) try to effect change and to protect our liberty and freedom. I don't think there is any more difficult situation than this for a man who's trying to make a difference. Been there, done that.
My heart goes out to these men, and I consider them to be true American Heroes. My hat is off to you, too, as you are one of my favorites. I wish we had more women like you in our country! I would really love to see you write an article addressing this issue. I'm a member of Save-A-Patriot. A couple of years ago we had a forum put on by some of the patriot women regarding this very issue, and it was a real blessing to see these women trying to encourage others to back up their husbands in what they were doing.
After all, in the book of Genesis, God created woman to be a "SUITABLE helper" for man. Please consider writing an article like this. I know you've got lots of stuff on your plate, and you do a tremendous job. But this is a real crucial issue! May God richly bless you in your efforts!
Yours truly, Frank
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To us our venerable progenitors bequeathed the dearbought inheritance of liberty, to our care and protection they consigned it, and the most sacred obligations are upon us to transmit the glorious purchase, unfettered by power, unclogged with shackles, to our innocent and beloved offspring.²
~~Preamble to the Massachusetts Suffolk Resolves, 1774
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Subject: Questioning America's Manhood Draws More Excuses
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 08:53:48 -0600Ms. Kidd - thank you for your excellent article "Where Have all the Men Gone" and the follow-up "...More Excuses." It is helpful to me to have pointed out what needs to be done. It is frustrating to me as a guy to see the "head in the sand" mentality of most guys. Your observations are right on. Your commentary helps me realize that my focus is about where it should be, and that for my family's and my country's sake, I must remain in the fight.
Thanks again for your commentary and please keep writing!
Dan
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Subject: Questioning America's Manhood Draws More Excuses
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 12:37:52 EDTGood for you! It is something that needed to be said. In a world that sends a man to jail for knocking a man who insulted his wife on his butt, instead of asking why. I am glad that someone finally asked where all the real men went! You and I both know men who think they are obligated to proposition every woman they talk to out of earshot of a third party. My opinion is that they do it in direct proportion to their lack of confidence in their masculinity!
Most of the same group ride Harleys, own pit bulldogs and behave in ways that they consider "Masculine behavior." The same group can be recognised by their hatred of Cats! Cats are considered "feminine"! Odd, I have owned lots of dogs and cats over the years and have never had a cat fall on its side and urinate on itself because of attention! I think a cat has a lot more admirable characteristics physically and mentally than any dog alive!
Why do you think minority men grow mustaches and beards at a rate that is 10 times the rate of real men? Inferiority complexes! It is something that women can't do! Me thinnest these men protesteth too much! I have been married to the same girl for 47 years this November and if any man thinks I am a wimp because of this, watch me knock him on his keester if he says it to my face!
The plain and simple fact of the matter is that wimps sire wimps as young men have fewer role models all the time!
Les
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Subject: Questioning America's Manhood Draws More Excuses
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:10:02 -0700PROMISE US that you'll throw your hat in the ring if Hillary Klinton is a candidate!!!!
Actually, PROMISE US you'll throw your hat in the ring no matter who is a candidate!!!
W're waiting for the call for the billion-women march, Devvy!
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Subject: Questioning America's Manhood Draws More Excuses
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:01:12 EDTLoved your article.
I have told others and I strongly believe that our problems today stem from Man's negligence of his (male) responsibilities and duties. If men would do what is right and Godly, then we would not have the so-called problems from the feminists that your e-mail "friends" have been thrashing you about.
Truth does hurt. Keep it comin'. Some folks need a hurtin'.
Sincerely, John
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Subject: I liked it!
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 14:56:38 -0500Mam,
Just a quick note to applaude you on your article. You hit the nail on the "Head". It's very aggrivating to be looked at as an "extremist" when I know I have a better view of things with my head removed from my butt. But most men are content with the view from there.
Hopefully someday goods folks like yourself will be on the nightly news giving us the truth instead of what we have now!!
Thanks again,
Chris
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Subject: America's manhood
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:56:51 -0400GREAT ARTICLE!! Good question, if you ever find the answer let us know I'm sure a lot of us would try to fix it instead trying to fight to keep our rights while trying to raise children. great article.
STAY ALIVE:
Squirrel
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Subbject: Questioning America's Manhood Draws More Excuses
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 18:22:28 -0700Forgive the French, but she sounds to me like a woman who's got her shit together, it's a shame that there aren't more out there (male or female) like her. Bill
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Subject: Questioning America's Manhood Draws More Excuses
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 20:49:01 -0500Dear Devvy,
You sure hit the nail on the head about all the whims that are running around calling themselves men.
Take a listen to Bob Dillon's " Blowing in the wind" He wrote the song in the sixties. That's when men started turning their heads about what's going on in the neighborhood's, this Nation, the world and inside our government.
I have always believed in you and your work and "Thank You" for all you do. I wish I had your diligence.
God Bless, Darrel
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Subject: your piece about real men
Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 22:53:43 -0700It was excellent and right on the mark. Congratulations and keep it up!
Fred
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Subject: Where Have All The Men Gone
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:24:03 -0400Devvy,
I read the above article last night on News With Views and was a little surprised to read about the types of e-mails you received from the men of America. I'm sure many of them feel as though they could 'take you' in a fair fight but that is about all the fight they have left in them. Today's version of machismo is playing touch football without a shirt on but if a tougher team shows up, it's time to go home for their violin lesson. The American man, to a large extent, has lost the American spirit which thankfully and proudly still resides within you.
I have been involved in the income tax issue for several years now and have tried to inform my co-workers about what is happening in that area. The guys listen but do nothing as even writing a letter of protest or inquiry is too much effort. One of the greatest indications of our lost manhood was a statement made by a co-worker that he is satisfied with the way things are because he has more 'stuff' than his father ever did after working a lifetime.
Keep writing what you write and and call them as you see them. The wakeup call has been sounded and the American man is found to be sleeping in for the morning.
Rich
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Subbject: Manhood Article
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 17:32:48 -0400Good article ! Too many of us, male and female, are more concerned with the "what" of our lives, (possessions, jobs, hobbies, etc.), than the "how" and "why" of government, society and bureacracy.
About the only point I'd disagree with is your world order conspiracy. I can't envision even three politicians plotting anything without one of them running his mouth. It's reflexive !
About the quickest way to acheive social ostracism in your community is to run for any office as an independent. Established parties won't like you. Neighbors and friends will be convinced you: (1) are a regressive nut. or (2) have found a new scheme to bilk the taxpayer. In any case you can expect to be vilified in the media, have any statements expurgated into lies, and answer death threats and crank calls at all hours. Then, if you should win, the fun really begins !
Small wonder why politics only attracts those with personal agendi, egotist, and the self-righteous. Never studious historians and experts on government and our constitution. Never thoughtful, logical, well-read students of the human condition and society.
We deserve what we get. Jeff
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Subbject: where are the men
Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 18:37:58 -0500I don't like to send email to you as you have enough, but your articles about the men of America and the so called "feminists" are right on target. Once again, thank you for being a real woman and your husband a real man--real people. Action will always speak louder than words. But your words are filled with love. How many people really feel that in your writings?
Thanks, Mr.and Mrs. Kidd
Mel
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Subject: "Men"
Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 00:29:50 EDT100 % correct. Thank you for the great article. How can we get this into all the major papers in the country. How could be get this into all the houses of government?
Thank you again.
H. K., Jr.
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Subject: Where Have All The Men Gone
Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2002 07:21:20 -0400Hello, I just read your article. Very insightful and observant.One of the best observances I have read on the present conditions in this once great land.Keep up the
good work.
Pat
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Joe Farah of worldnetdaily.com, did a commentary June 13, 2002, titled 'Why I'm Not A Conservative'. It is an excellent read with a clear implication in my humble opinion, see:
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=27945
In a letter to the editor section on WND, one writer had this to say, in part, about Joe's piece:
"Farah's silly etymology
"With the greatest respect (which I assure you continues unsullied despite our present disagreement), your piece for today, "Why I am Not a Conservative," is just silly.
"In fact, its worse than silly, because the catchy title and the opening thesis about the meaning of the word "conservative" occludes the main point you wanted to make, to wit, that there is a serious testosterone shortage in the conservative movement."
See? This guy got the message from Joe's article and didn't like it much.
I would also like to note real quick: If the people will force Congress to adhere to the restrictions placed upon them and that includes your state legislatures, I promise you that all this crap with the feminists, NGOs and special interest groups will die a well deserved death.